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#12117129 Feb 29, 2016 at 10:13 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVQZrSDSJS0


I like Big Dumb Guild's Guides ever since ifro posted the manny strat. Their visuals are amazingly helpful, and they also have good music choices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPSuvi-U5Q

Proper Bird's guide, for more information.
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#12130411 Mar 03, 2016 at 04:35 PM
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Bump. Please make sure to take a look and get a general idea of what happens in the fight.
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#12206631 Mar 25, 2016 at 08:21 PM
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2 DF 4 heal Vid: https://youtu.be/8pOTGezPLEE

3 DF 4 heal Vid soaker PoV (same concept as above just older vid): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfa31bPDpwQ

P3 dance image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLGCkfGWoAMtXcw.png
Another dance img: http://postimg.org/image/ik43c55qd/full/

1 DF strat guide: http://prettystandard.enjin.com/forum/m/33028227/viewthread/23193061-mythic-archimonde

2 tank, 4 heal
2 doomfire strat, lust in phase 3 for 3rd infernal wave
Off Tank and disc soak doomfires, ~20 stacks total
Stack by orbs, grab orb then spread for shadowfel burst
Burn boss, cleave add during p1. Need to push to 70% before 3rd doomfire spawn

DPS Ring timings:
P1 ring on pull
p2 ring after 2nd beams
P3 infernal wave #2
P3 infernal wave #4

Infernal Waves
1 - 3 min CDs
2 - Ring
3 - Lust/potion
4 - Ring, 3 min CDs

Healing CDs beams (in prog): devo, tranqx2, barrier, , RING, VE, RC, smokebomb
1 - Tranq1
2 - Tranq2
3 - Devo/VE/ring
4 - ?

Healing CDs infernals (in prog):
1 - Tranq1/barrier
2 - Tranq2
3 - Devo/VE/RC/lust/ring
4 - Tranq1/barrier
5 - Anything left

Group assignments:
1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -

Interrupts p2
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General notes from various posts below:

2nd Ring after 2nd Beams are for sure the best for DPS increase. Ring probably will be able for 1st and 3rd Infernals for your comp.

For groups 735+ its a DPS cap that will give you a feeling about P3 and if you can handle it. 3Healing this, its BL - 1 doomfire, Non-BL - 2 doomfires.

All healers should dps at start. Healers all in all should easily be able to push 4-5M of your P1 damage.

From personal experience, just deal with 2 doomfires and 4 heal. The last phase is insane, having an extra healer and lust in p3 is beyond nice. And the only downfall of this strat is that your off tank has something to do..... we had a disc soak fire 1 and the tank not on boss at the time of allure grab fire 2. It was very easy once you work out defensives (personal and external) and barely changes the difficulty of the fight besides for that one person you can hopefully trust. P3 was 100 times easier with lust and 4 healers - it would be very hard to get through one of the last waves of infernals without hero (since you can only use ring twice last phase).

Don't try to push for one doomfire if it's not looking possible. Nothing is wrong with "slow and steady wins the race". Play smarter not harder. That being said even to phase with 4 healers 2 doomfires can be a struggle you have to practice to achieve. Make sure even your healers are pre potting and full DPSing the boss at the beginning.

Having lust in phase 3 is definitely really nice because it means you can ring infernal wave 3 and lust+potions infernal wave 4. If you can get through those two infernal waves reliably a kill is imminent.
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Most first kills are somewhere between "infernal wave 5 just spawned!" and a little bit after infernal wave 4 so more boss dps doesn't usually mean anything unless you can skip infernal wave 4 (highly unlikely). Big cooldowns for those infernal waves mean a lot.

We tried 3 heal lust in phase 1 for a bit but found it unreliable and went to 4 heal 2 doomfire lust in phase 3. The extra doomfire isn't too bad considering you have an extra healer. We have our tank take 15 and our disc take 5 stacks.

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p3 is arguably easier than p2 so the lust-on-pull strat makes sense to me. groups with really low dps should definitely consider 2df though since 3rd wave of infernals will probably eat you alive without lust/hero.

if you run lots of classes that are ideal for infernals (destro locks, mm hunters, arcane mages) it's even better to try the p3 lust strat if you can't consistently 1df, because it means that infernals will be even easier and wave 3 infernals is really the only challenging part of that entire phase, with lust probably trivializing it.
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the first two waves have only three infernals each and are much easier to deal with than the third and fourth (when you get four.)


P2 General order of events:

Boss reaches 70%
Ranged + melees get to ur assigned spot
Lazers
Shackles
Break shackles towards star
Allure
Go back to ur assigned spot
Lazers + Shackles overlapping
Break Shackles towards star
Allure
Everyone stack up on star (push boss to 55% if its not pushed yet)
Adds spawning, aoe them down on the boss, dodge add aoe towards the green pool
Shackles
Roar, move back to ur assigned spot and break shackles
Lazers + adds
Allure instantly after the lazers
Shackles
Go back to ur assigned spot
Lazers
Boss needs to get pushed to p4 now! Before the allure. Shackles + lazers will disappear during transition


"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."
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#12206678 Mar 25, 2016 at 08:43 PM
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Looks like a fun fight
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#12215970 Mar 28, 2016 at 09:35 PM · Edited 3 years ago
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#12217980 Mar 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM
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#12215970 Hose wrote:

http://prettystandard.enjin.com/forum/m/33028227/viewthread/23193061-mythic-archimonde

We will be using this strat!! read it and get comfortable


thats cool totally not the strat i was learning memorizing for the past 3 days
How it feels to play bear right now
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#12218205 Mar 29, 2016 at 02:15 PM
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im sorry? is there some other strat that we listed in this thread you were looking at? they are all relatively the same the only difference is 1 doom fire vs 2
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#12218426 Mar 29, 2016 at 03:22 PM
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there's like, 5 different strats here hose.

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#12218520 Mar 29, 2016 at 03:56 PM
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Alright fine i will compromise and say there are like.. 3 strats. the only difference between them is push timing.. God you guys make things difficult for no reason sometimes..
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#12281960 Apr 13, 2016 at 10:31 PM · Edited 3 years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pOTGezPLEE&feature=youtu.be

FOR CLARITY, this is the strat we should be using.




Below is a great site and has ALL of the information you need to know about the fight. Dont worry about the positionings so much as the INFORMATION. EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS GUIDE:

http://prettystandard.enjin.com/forum/m/33028227/viewthread/23193061-mythic-archimonde


"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."
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#12282130 Apr 14, 2016 at 12:08 AM
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Just glanced over our logs from tonight and I didnt realize we were still lusting on the last few attempts. We need to push in the timing we were tonight without lust.

It is important for everyone to know what is going on, where they need to be and what they need to do in order to maximize our total dps output.

I'm not sure if we will currently beat the 3rd DF or not w/o lust.


"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."
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#12333623 Apr 28, 2016 at 05:22 PM
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I think we should have the tanks due the doomfire instead of the hunters. I got some notes from tanks that have downed mannoroth.

Grab fire around 8 seconds before allure cast

use/refresh bone shield when picking it up
once you have it all pop anti magic shell and run back to the boss.

start hitting to build up a good shield with a high bb death strike stack.

once anti magic shell is over, use a blood rune death rune on rune tap.

once that is done (or during if you want) use vampiric blood.

if they can use another rune tap, even better. If not, no biggy tho since they might not have the charge from like a death brand timer

run back to the fire drop location with 3 seconds left use death's advance to get out of the fire pile after it drops.

to run to it and the portal(lock) to come back as if the portal isnt being used elsewhere

like option 1 is to slow run to the drop location at 3 seconds to drop the fire and then deaths advance to run out of the fire so they dont get a stack or take more damage then needed

option 2 is to use deah's advance to get to the drop location so they can attack the boss stay in heal range and build up a good ds shield

then use the lock portal to teleport back.

Ideally they could also pool the runic power and dump a bunch of death coil to bump their hp pool up while running to drop fire so the ticks are technically cutting less overall hp
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#12389529 May 18, 2016 at 01:09 PM
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Final analysis....boss is dead!

For those wondering, CAL is the one that wiped us at 2% to conduits.

OSCAR, was the one that almost wiped us at 1% to conduits.


Side notes: no reason we cant kill gorefiend in 1 feast phase:
- Boss needs to be at 65-70% going into it to kill within the feast.
- Should 3 heal it, just rez the healer that gets picked twice to go down.
- Still looks like can use unholy/frost dk and another for souls (boomkin or warrior or w/e really).
- Have tanks soak orbs during feast if we have the dps to 1 phase it to maximize dps.
- Dont need to sacrifice dps anymore.


"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."
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#12389574 May 18, 2016 at 01:29 PM
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#12390103 May 18, 2016 at 04:23 PM
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I'll try and provide video evidence to the contrary.

#12389529 Arvandar wrote:

Final analysis....boss is dead!

For those wondering, CAL is the one that wiped us at 2% to conduits.

OSCAR, was the one that almost wiped us at 1% to conduits.


Side notes: no reason we cant kill gorefiend in 1 feast phase:
- Boss needs to be at 65-70% going into it to kill within the feast.
- Should 3 heal it, just rez the healer that gets picked twice to go down.
- Still looks like can use unholy/frost dk and another for souls (boomkin or warrior or w/e really).
- Have tanks soak orbs during feast if we have the dps to 1 phase it to maximize dps.
- Dont need to sacrifice dps anymore.



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#12390150 May 18, 2016 at 04:36 PM · Edited 3 years ago
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Good luck! I'm not 100% it was you tbh.

You are the only one that crossed paths with conduit #10 as far as I can tell. Its kind of difficult to pinpoint who the conduits spawn on since there is no debuff and archimonde doesnt target anyone. And that particular conduit seems to appear with nobody around it. As best I can tell you used disengage and it spawned along the path you disengaged on, which happened to be near conduit #9 which caused the explosion.

The only other possible people are Citra, myself, sheep, affliction, and atomic. All of us took damage from conduit #10 spawn, but you were the only one who moved over the actual spawn location.


"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."
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#12390337 May 18, 2016 at 05:34 PM
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THE MAN HAS PROOF. LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN


*Disclaimer: Just so people dont feel upset Arv is merely trying to point out the mistakes we made in the encounter so we dont make them again regardless if he is dead or not these are the things that will come and haunt us on future attempts if its not addressed.
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#12390915 May 18, 2016 at 10:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=CSJmJZH0f3w

My recording was corrupted so I had to screencap the recording so its not 1440p 60fps like it should be.
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#12390927 May 18, 2016 at 10:35 PM
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#12390915 Oscarzulu wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=CSJmJZH0f3w

My recording was corrupted so I had to screencap the recording so its not 1440p 60fps like it should be.



Is it just me or is the link not working?


"Once more into the fray. Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day. Live and die on this day."
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#12390943 May 18, 2016 at 10:45 PM
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#12390915 Oscarzulu wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=CSJmJZH0f3w

My recording was corrupted so I had to screencap the recording so its not 1440p 60fps like it should be.



I think you have it set on Private or something!
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